Question:
New Water Heater Leaking: Please Help!?
Jamie
2013-01-12 18:40:51 UTC
I just installed a new whirlpool 40 gallon electric water heater. I've had nothing but trouble.

First, I couldn't get the nipple connection at the top to seal on the hot side, and it kept having a slow leak. Finally I added thread sealer and it stopped.

Next, It started to leak UNDER the same area at the nipple, but from INSIDE the water heater (right where the hot connection is made to the nipple).

Then an hour later (as the water finally got hot), it started to drip a lot out of the T&P valve too.

I even turned down my water pressue, and the same thing. Did I get a defective unit, ,or what? Any tips will be greatly appreciated!
Seven answers:
Corky R
2013-01-13 09:21:24 UTC
I'm afraid I have to disagree with a couple of the previous answers. First, I am I said has apparently not had much experience with PLUMBING and it's components. When dealing with plumbing pipe, both old iron style pipe and copper pipe, the fittings for these, that use threads, are all tapered, and for good reason. Tapered threads can be tightened to eliminate leakage, sometimes even with a dent or two or three in the theads of the male pipe. However, these threads are meant to have a sealant of some sort used on the threads, (usually applied to the male's threads). This sealant can be EITHER as a paste, which is applied to the threads with the fingers or a small brush, generously, OR the teflon tape. The tape must be applied by wrapping the male end of the pipe, in the same direction of the threads, which is usually clockwise. This way when the pipe is introduced into the female fitting, the tape stays in place and actually pulls further down into the threads and DOES make a leakless seal in 98% of the joints on which it is used. Most of the other 2% of joints, the ones that leak, are found, upon inspection, to have had the tape installed incorrectly, so that it actually came out of the threads when tightened instead of pulling farther in. So, the leaks weren't caused because of the taper of the threaded ends.

As to the leak under the nipple connection of the hot side, this is a very ambiguous description, as there are many different fittings and pipes that can be connected to this point and without actual viewable evidence, it's virtually impossible for us to tell which connection you're speaking of. I have, however, installed many, many water heaters, both electric, gas and commercial units and of all of those, and considering the use of many different helper handles on the pipe wrenches, I've never managed to break a welded fitting loose from the top of the tank. I've also never had a tank leak from a weld done at the factory. These things are always tested under air pressure before leaving the factory. I'd say it's virtually impossible for you to break the weld away from the fitting on top of your heater. I usually check the general plumbing of the home when installing a new water heater, and if I don't find any, I install a cushion pipe in the hot side line before the entrance into the water heater. This not only provides the cushion for the water to expand and not blow open a T & P valve, but it also stops water hammer from occurring when the water is shut down.

And one last thing, I have found that it's very, very seldom that you need a 12" pipe wrench to properly tighten pipe fittings and it's NEVER necessary to use a helper handle on the wrench you are using, to tighten joints. It's sometimes necessary to use larger size wrenches to loosen fittings, but not to tighten them.
anonymous
2013-01-12 22:35:57 UTC
I'm not sure about the leak as I can't see it from here. But if you're able to adjust your water pressure, you probably have a PRV (pressure reducing valve). If that's the case you should install a small expansion tank near the water heater.



When you take a shower, the water heater fills with cold water. The cold water is heated which makes it expand. The PRV prevents the expansion from pushing water back out into the main, so pressure builds up and eventually opens the TPR You can watch it happen with a pressure gauge (you can get a cheap pressure gauge from HD that screws onto a hose bib).
I am I said
2013-01-12 19:00:34 UTC
The connections you speak of are prone to leaking because the threads are tapered.



That means 1) you must use pipe dope (a paste thread sealant; NOT teflon tape). Teflon tape will not seal tapered threads.



and 2) the connections must be cranked tight using a 12" or larger pipe wrench; not a pair of pump pliers or small wrench.
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Unfortunately, when they leak that means they need to be replaced.
zandra_faline
2013-01-12 18:46:58 UTC
Sorry- but best bet is to call a plumber-- otherwise, if the leak gets worse and causes any property damage- your insurance will not cover it since YOU installed it yourself instead of having a licenced contractor do it (we do too... but we do call a pro if there are problems!)
percylenain
2013-01-12 18:52:18 UTC
Sounds to me that while trying to tighten the hot water outlet on the top of the tank you may have over tighened it and broken the weld, the fitting is welded into the tank--you say the T&P valve is now leaking, but it may be leakage from the broken weld at the hot outlet running across the top of the tank and dripping down to the T&P valve
skidaddy 7921
2014-07-21 03:42:11 UTC
Zandra-faline, insurance pays for your screw ups. check with your agent.


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